About: Boldly striding into the 19th Century!
@SkallagrimNilsson Sadly true. Just look at the comments. V
@korwinblue And using that money to pay for CIVILIZATION. I'm OK with that. You know: water, roads, the military (funny how they always get funding), education, libraries, etc. And in a civilized nation, health care. I don't mind paying my fair share, I'm not conservative. I don't think we can give tax breaks to the wealthy & borrow money from China indefinitely. Guess that makes me fiscally sound. Unlike the 'conservatives'.
@korwinblue What % of their wealth was that?
This isn't socialism, this is civilization. Either we make the changes now & take care of the citizen or as others have pointed out, the citizens will eventually get sick of waiting for reform & revolt. I'm quite happy with a 70% tax on the uber wealthy. They earned the money off the backs of the masses, time to pay some of it in kind. They also benefited from all those things that have already been paid for by taxes.
@tetsubo57 Except the government takes money out of every paycheck, giving you less spending money in your pocket.
Red Herring. Nobody is suggesting to bring back slavery, lower suffrage, etc... My Aunt and Uncle own a small business, and they're thinking about moving to Nevada. The US cannot afford and manage these Socialistic Reforms at all. If you think you could tax the top 2% by 99% indefinitely, you are wrong.
Rockefeller, Carnegie, J.P. Morgan, were three of the BIGGEST Robber Barons, but they were also the biggest philanthropists. Giving away millions of dollars to charity.
@HelloWalterSobchak People can be easily manipulated. Especially if you are willing to lie & cheat in the process. Something the conservatives are more than willing to do. All in the name of serving the economic elite. All Hail Corporate America! I bet they will have spiffy uniforms...
@Carnuss But by not having a revolution you *minimize* the level of violence. I would not be forced to kill my fellow citizens in self-defense. And I really don't want to do that. I *like* civilization.
@Carnuss Are you aware of a non-violent revolution in the Middle East?
@HelloWalterSobchak Minimum wage should $15/hr. If it kept pace with the cost of living. But it is half of that. Why? Conservatives bribed by business owners. The government should take care of the American worker, not the corporate elite. But the workers can't bribe them as well.
get a motorcycle or scooter you go forward all the time :) I love being out of the factory by the way what a prison it is, two part time jobs now and want one more
@Carnuss *He* wasn't violent. It didn't mean the British weren't.
@27dcx Which would create smaller regions of bald-faced discrimination. Something that would violate our Founding Fathers intent. No, we need to drag the ignorant Luddites into the 21st C kicking & screaming if required. You don't reward a child's tantrum by agreeing with them.
@Carnuss I have yet to see one on the political level that didn't involve some violence.
I think the united states is too large and diverse of a place to be governed under one set of rules, most of your taxes should be paid to the state, not federal; and the states should be allowed to set their own laws into play. That way folks would be able to "vote with their feet" so to speak.
@Carnuss I don't want to see my fellow citizens killing each other in the streets. Nor do I want to have to kill in self-defense. I want us to be civilized. I don't think that is asking too much.
@Manjikoa But if we don't *start* the journey, I know we won't ever get there. So that is what I am doing, encouraging people to start the journey. And voting conservative is a step back, not forward.
That being the case it seems funny to me, that people aren't free to fall back to subsistent living? We're all trapped inside this box with no real way out. If you get to the top you're still in the box, but you're standing on the countless shoulders of people who helped you get there. Property taxes, income taxes and the debt system conspire to make a trap that indefinably sinister. I digress, we're all upset... greed is winning the day, and everyone else is made to pay.
Our system was never set up to protect the welfare of the people. It was set up to protect their very basic rights. The problem with what you're selling isn't the sincerity of your intentions, but rather the steps needed for the U.S. to make it to those distant shores. Many people (myself included) just want to own a little farm and eek out an existence of honest toil. Unfortunately, no matter who I vote for, that will not be an attainable goal in my life time.